Comic 162 - The best intentions...

18th Feb 2014, 2:12 AM
The best intentions...
Average Rating: 5 (16 votes)

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Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 2:12 AM edit delete
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velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 2:24 AM edit delete reply

Ok, so maybe he's just an arrogant jackass with an ego the size of Jupiter...

Maybe next time he'll LISTEN when he's told to do something or not do something...

*very carefully hugs Gali*
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 2:27 AM edit delete reply

>>>Please!!!<<< Do Not Insult Arrogant Jackasses with oversize egos.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:28 AM edit delete reply

hehe Yeah this should prove mind expanding..

Galina gets a lot of hugs .. this is good :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:03 PM edit delete reply

Galina is huggable !
We approve of that. :)
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:13 PM edit delete reply

totally agreed ... :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:26 PM edit delete reply

Galina can haz hug? :)
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:36 PM edit delete reply

She can haz az many az she likez :D
Stormwind13 18th Feb 2014, 9:05 PM edit delete reply

As long as people are CAREFUL with said hugs, I think Galina would appreciate all the hugs she can get, Sheela. :-)
Centcomm 19th Feb 2014, 1:19 PM edit delete reply

yesh she can haz hugs.. :D
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:35 PM edit delete reply

So true :)
John Phoenix 19th Feb 2014, 4:20 AM edit delete reply
Galina will get all the hugs she needs
mjkj 19th Feb 2014, 11:16 AM edit delete reply

Yes, that she will :)
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 2:25 AM edit delete reply

I still don't like the SOB he's covering his slimy ass. To the body part vats with him!!!

Yanno, I think this guy is like even less than Douchebag,
velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 2:49 AM edit delete reply

I still don't like him either, but that's primarily because he obviously lets his ego write checks his conscience can't cash
jamie59 18th Feb 2014, 2:26 AM edit delete reply

Don't tell me Rose is going to be nice to him. Please!
velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 2:33 AM edit delete reply

It's Rose. Do you really think she's going to be *nice*?

...well, ok, she *might* be nice and use small enough words for him to understand her without any doubt.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:28 AM edit delete reply

is Rose EVER nice to people that screw with her plots?
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:04 PM edit delete reply

If it'll advance her next plot ...
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:13 PM edit delete reply

hoppy 18th Feb 2014, 6:20 PM edit delete reply
if it will allow her to screw even more later.
cattservant 18th Feb 2014, 2:44 AM edit delete reply

He might find what's going to happen next is going to disorder his world view.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:28 AM edit delete reply

just a wee bit :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:05 PM edit delete reply

Meh, that was gonna happene anyways ... aaaaliens !
Timotheus 18th Feb 2014, 3:25 AM edit delete reply
Can you think of any worse punishment for someone like this than to to have their entire preconceived world order (and their exulted position in it) overturned and their true position in the intellectual power chain revealed?
cattservant 18th Feb 2014, 3:33 AM edit delete reply

Especially for a thinky type like the Doc!
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:20 PM edit delete reply

I cant...
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:05 PM edit delete reply

I think the worse part in it, is the bit where he gets to beat himself up over it.
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:11 AM edit delete reply

Oh, no!!!

Rose is drafting him...! I hope not!

*hugs Galina carefully and hugs Amy and May*

Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:29 AM edit delete reply

Rose makes her own decisions .. we all know that :D
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:52 AM edit delete reply

Yeah, she does, but that sounds suspiciously like Rose will chew him out a bit and then draft him for the trip...
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:21 PM edit delete reply

he has the wrong skill set for the trip.. :D I can say that much without spoilers :D
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:38 PM edit delete reply

*is relieved*

I am glad he is staying... :D
Sleel 18th Feb 2014, 5:47 AM edit delete reply

Nope. She listens, nods sagaciously at you, then pats you on your naive little head and send you on your way. If she s being nice. If not, then she flays you verbally and sends you on your way looking like a walking meat popsicle. But she's pragmatic. If he's 'in the club' she has just acquired a new tool to add to her kit. The tool in question having no say in the matter. Never throw away a useful tool.
velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 11:14 AM edit delete reply

I think the main reason he's 'in the club' is so that she can make sure he doesn't try anything else this stupid.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:21 PM edit delete reply

ALSO a good point :D
Antonious 18th Feb 2014, 9:48 PM edit delete reply

He is in "The Club" so that when she next uses the club on someone he gets to be like the filling in a dead blow hammer only in a club.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:21 PM edit delete reply

points at sleel GOOD point :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:07 PM edit delete reply

He's a tool allright. :D

As for why you'd bring him along on the trip ?
Well, Galina need someone to kick when she's feeling frustrated.
mjkj 18th Feb 2014, 4:39 PM edit delete reply

So true, Sleel: Never throw away a useful fool :p
cattservant 18th Feb 2014, 6:18 PM edit delete reply

I think maybe she is 'containing' him.
CyberSkull 18th Feb 2014, 8:42 AM edit delete reply

If they look human and say "Don't do that, it will kill me", take them at face value until proven otherwise.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:21 PM edit delete reply

its a good rule :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:10 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, that was originally my main complaint about his behavior.

He's supposedly a scientist, yet he had no interest in interacting with her to figure out if she was standardized in any way, shape or form. For all we know, he would not have the correct data format to extract her data, even if she *had* been an android - After all, she'd been build by the russians. They may not have used anything like what he uses. I found that to be a pretty big flaw from him.
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 7:20 PM edit delete reply

Right now, there's only one globally standardized format for android brains, so that wasn't a consideration.

From the perspective of virtually anybody in Granger's professional field, interacting with her verbally would be pointless--her protests and struggles were all programmed behavior, intended to deter casual attempts to pull her data. From that same perspective, anybody who programs that sort of behavior is either really clever or really sick in the head.
Sheela 19th Feb 2014, 8:29 PM edit delete reply

Oh, and here I thought androids were so new that there wasn't a standard yet.

Standards usually don't come about until later.
Nobody 18th Feb 2014, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
Rose is going to tear him a new one.

What is worse for him than being told he's less intelligent than he think he is?

That the one telling and proving it is (for him) an "unintelligent machine AI".
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:22 PM edit delete reply

yup .. you got that one :D
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 7:41 PM edit delete reply

Small distinction: By Granger's perception, AIs are most definitely not "unintelligent machines". Part of the challenge in his field at this time is trying to get true AI into an android-sized body.
Centcomm 19th Feb 2014, 1:21 PM edit delete reply

exactly .. most AIs are room sized affairs that require a massive support structure ...
Sheela 19th Feb 2014, 8:30 PM edit delete reply

I wonder, do Dr. Granger own an AI ?
And wouldn't it get terribly upset if he got jailed ?
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 11:19 AM edit delete reply

Stormwind has often commented how Centcomm is evil, I 150% endorse this she sets all else to shame. She builds a case why we should hate the character. ie Doc Numb-Nuts here or Centcomm character is Datachasers. >>>THEN<<< she comes in with a sweet wonderful reason why they aren't the despicable character we think. I can't wait, in Data Chasers, for the reasoning on Douchebag.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:30 PM edit delete reply

in this case - I can speak up on something.. now there are several kinds of "villans" in stories there are "black and white " villians ones that have no redemption ( and most often found in trashy novels ) and then you have villians or "people that make errors that seem evil " ) I HATE purely 2D villians or even bad guys sometimes even good people make errors in judgement due to background or experiances . the key is to show the readers what you want them to see . and then a little more as the story gets more involved. If i can make you hate a charcter in the space of a few pages then make you wonder if .." hmm okay.. maybe hes not a TOTAL lost cause ... " then ive done my job .. also there is whats called "protaganist morality " this is all viewed from Galina's perspepective and to her Granger is a bad guy. it wouldnt matter if he had 2 children and a wife he loved dearly and doted on to the audience he would still be evil .. think of all the nameless goons in movies .. ever think about those guys? the ones whos mothers and family will never see them again? that died as the hero smiled gleefully mowing them down left and right? hmmm probably not they were just "kills" on the tally of the heros latest conquest. it doesnt matter if they had loved ones or people that cared about them.. something to think about no?

As for the prince.. he has deapth but some people are beyond redemption.. feel free to hate him with a passion. :D

But look at Maxus.. or Julia .. they are both part of the "villians" so is Acantha .. but they are not evil .. :D
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 1:19 PM edit delete reply

Oh, I fully realize the writers ploys you are employing. In Data Chasers you have essentially used the Machiavellian tactic of switching one villainess for another, Celia for Cent forcing the reader to switch thought loyalty in mid stream. Here you are allowing numb-nuts to lie by omission that he didn't know what he was locking the door to do, would fatally hurt someone. After he was told hands off completely I was merely making a snarky comment (1 per page required) about your doing so.
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:16 PM edit delete reply

yep I know that and enjoy the snark - i just took it as a open door to get a few words out :D
velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 2:05 PM edit delete reply

Maxus and Acantha aren't villains by *any* stretch of the imagination. Neither is Roma itself. Or even Kali. The villain aspect is entirely the drekhead that's currently in position to treat Roma (and, in his own mind, the world) as his personal playtoy and sandbox.

Kali (as well as the rest of the Cassians) is unfortunately bound and restricted to obeying drekhead's orders through no fault of her own, and Maxus and Acantha are both merely in unfortunate positions on his radar. All of them are overall good people (with the possible exception of some of the Cassians, we've only met Kali and Malati) and want drekhead gone, but all are stuck in unfortunate positions that would prevent them from doing anything: Kali by her built-in controls/restraints, Acantha by her inexperience and inability (so far) to gain any support that we're aware of (hidden or otherwise, other mentioned characters notwithstanding) aside from Aeneas (who himself is trapped in the situation because of the damage to his systems as well as his mistrust for humans because of the attack that *caused* the damage). And Maxus is constrained by the strategic and tactical necessity to bide his time and stay his hand, to avoid the destruction of the entire city due to drekhead's "contingencies" as well as the restrictions on Kali and the Cassians, who would be forced by those restrictions as well as orders from drekhead to protect him at all costs.
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 4:09 PM edit delete reply

Good summation Velvet just one point when all hell broke loose in Nova Roma Kali was not Kali she was another member of the Pantheon and changed into Kali from a Centcomm type Avatar.
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:19 PM edit delete reply

A bad guy, huh ?

I think one of the best bad guy/good guy's I've read in recent times, is the emperor in the second chapter of The Meek webcomic (which no longer updates, unfortunately). Who changes character quite a lot over the 45 pages of that second chapter, and brilliantly so.

I'm not sure if I could peg him as a good guy, or a bad guy - But his depiction is fantastic, *so* many feels!
Millions dead, and nobody responsible. He has a right to be angry.

The Feels, THE FEELS !
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 7:44 PM edit delete reply

To inch around the edges of spoiler territory, Kali was always an android; she was previously called Parvati and had a close association with the Livius family.
cattservant 19th Feb 2014, 12:15 AM edit delete reply

Somewhat like Dolly?
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 4:16 PM edit delete reply

Oh nicely put Velvet .. seriously well done ..
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 7:45 PM edit delete reply

Taking credit for my approach, eh, Cent? . . .
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 7:54 PM edit delete reply

Oh not a bit -- backs up not wanting to be hit with a frying pan.. :D
Stormwind13 18th Feb 2014, 8:20 PM edit delete reply

I'm thinking now, Dragonrider that we need to blame Rose for at least PART of this evilness. She had SOMETHING to do with trying to present Granger that way and then working to redeem him now.

Having said that, if I had walked in on him with scalpel in hand over Galina I would have shot him until he was well and truly dead. And slept FINE at night. Now that he is neutralized though, unless I could PROVE he was Stalin reincarnated, or someone like that, I couldn't shoot him. Unless he threatened someone.

Having said that, I wish someone HAD shot him. I don't care for Granger at all. :-) And no, I don't want to know that he can be a human being if he TRIES. Sometimes I like things nice and simple. :-)
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 10:20 PM edit delete reply

This particular bit of evilness? I'd give myself about 90% of the blame for it. I don't mind writing characters who are completely evil (Prince Douchebag comes to mind), but I object very strongly to characters who are two-dimensionally Stupid Evil. I prefer my evil characters to be CHARACTERS first; an actual personality gives a better basis on which to establish the "evil" tag. Being an arrogant twat doesn't mean you can't be successful in your chosen career, but when I'm writing a character, I want to know WHY they're an arrogant twat who's successful in their chosen career. I tend not to really like writing characters who are outright stupid assholes in a position of high authority and power, because there are so many of those in the real world that it depresses me.

Originally, Cent shot me a couple of pages wherein May was mouthing off to Granger, and Granger responded by SLAPPING HER ACROSS THE FACE. Why? Because . . . evil, apparently.

I've only rarely witnessed or even heard about a modern-day adult in a position of authority physically assaulting a teenager (who isn't their own kid) just for lipping off. The brief sketch we'd already established for Granger's personality indicated that he wouldn't stoop to physical violence. He's too self-confident (okay, arrogant) and aware of his own authority. All he really had to do was lean back out the door and call for Security to remove her, and they'd have done it. If he struck her, he'd have lost all control of the situation; she could have screamed and brought Security in to see her on the floor with a bloody lip, and it would have been Arrest Time with Guard Friendly for Dr. Granger (on the Happy Fun Invasive Body Cavity Search playset, no doubt).

I pretty much got on the horn with Cent immediately and presented my case in opposition to Stupid Evil Slappy Man, and we hammered out the details. So, yup, mostly my fault here.
Sheela 19th Feb 2014, 2:32 PM edit delete reply

Ooohh ... Happy Fun Time ! :D

Do the Guards also know how to play the ever so popular games of "Oops I dropped you." and "Oops I dropped you AGAIN." ?
Or maybe they're more into the "Falling down the stairs" game ? Followed by "Your Face, My Fist, BFF's forever!" and "THUD!" ?
Tokyo Rose 19th Feb 2014, 6:00 PM edit delete reply

"Oops I Dropped You" is an intramural sport on Luna; the irony of bouncing people off the floor in an environment that, if it weren't for grav-generators, would be one-sixth gravity appeals to a certain mindset.
Sheela 19th Feb 2014, 8:47 PM edit delete reply

Ah, so when they play foot ball, it is literally their foot in your balls ... or something like that ?
jas 18th Feb 2014, 12:11 PM edit delete reply

I see Dr. Genius finally got a clue...about time. XD
Centcomm 18th Feb 2014, 12:37 PM edit delete reply

hehe - so very true :D
Sheela 18th Feb 2014, 4:19 PM edit delete reply

Yuup, he finally got a clue-by-four. :)
highlander55 18th Feb 2014, 7:43 PM edit delete reply

He may be part of the party now but I have a feeling Rose is going to butt fuck him really good first.
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 8:49 PM edit delete reply

Wonder if she will... no better not go there...Ah to hell with it this is Rose we're talking about. Who gets to wear the strap on? Kiku, May, or Amy?
Stormwind13 18th Feb 2014, 9:13 PM edit delete reply

Well, if Rose WAS going that way, Dragonrider... It would have to be Amy. I mean she is the 'trained' sexbot. And she also has a... bone(r) to pick with Granger too. At least if her earlier suggestion for punishing Granger is any indication. :-)
Stormwind13 18th Feb 2014, 9:10 PM edit delete reply

I would think Rose would BRAIN fu¬Ęk Granger, highlander. Make him all too aware of things he didn't know. And then put a leash on the drooling mess that is leftover. :-)
Tokyo Rose 18th Feb 2014, 10:22 PM edit delete reply

Gracious, you make me sound like a Great Old One, purveyor of knowledge beyond the comprehension of man. SAN check!
Stormwind13 18th Feb 2014, 10:35 PM edit delete reply

Hehehehehe... Sanity is overrated, Rose. :-D
highlander55 18th Feb 2014, 10:37 PM edit delete reply

Yes Rose, Check your Sanity out to lunch and strap on and CHARGE!!!
velvetsanity 18th Feb 2014, 10:39 PM edit delete reply

*checks her sanity at the door as she enters*
Sheela 19th Feb 2014, 2:34 PM edit delete reply

*saunters right past Velvetsanity*

No Problemo - I didn't have a sanity to begin with. :)
Dragonrider 18th Feb 2014, 11:58 PM edit delete reply

*checks internet for sex toys, AH Here it is!! Orders Large 12" John Holmes model with industrial strapping, 1 tube of Preparation "H" for lube orders send to Amy c/o Tokyo Rose*
talantus 19th Feb 2014, 3:50 AM edit delete reply
and the lord said: LET THERE BE LIGHT!

finally the bulb lit up in DR.Granger's mind. i'm glad. i was refraining to hate him ( even tough i couldn't condone his actions) cuz i wanted to give him a chance and i am glad it paid off.

just as i tough. misguided but no ill intention.... HELL! i also called it a few pages earlier!
the road to evil is paved with good intention! he intented to make a copy in case something happened( and in the process would have killed her) to save her .

personally i can't wait to see him join the merry band. maybe redeem himself?( or get a chance to study galina more?)

either way i can tell that i'm going to like him. like all your characters so far, there is a complexity that makes them attaching and human, so human.

he's my favorite type of character, good intention with strong vices and a touch of bad luck/timing.
Centcomm 19th Feb 2014, 1:28 PM edit delete reply

smiles good :D not everyone is good or evil some are just grey...
Stormwind13 19th Feb 2014, 10:07 PM edit delete reply

And sometimes... ::BLAM, BLAM, BLAM:: ...there is grey, red and white scattered over the walls. :-)

Doubt I'll ever care for Dr. Dickhead... I've had to deal with too many people like that in real life. I wish we could thin the population of some of them.
mjkj 19th Feb 2014, 11:18 PM edit delete reply

Oh, there are Greys out there???

I thought they were just fiction??!?!?? 8o
Antonious 19th Feb 2014, 11:22 PM edit delete reply

50 shades of ...?
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