Comic 180 - Happy moment...

29th Apr 2014, 12:00 AM
Happy moment...
Average Rating: 5 (14 votes)

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Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 12:00 AM edit delete
yay Everyones togather almost!
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cattservant 29th Apr 2014, 12:02 AM edit delete reply

Geez Mom!
She's not quite your little girl anymore...
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 1:33 AM edit delete reply

hehe well she IS kinda sorta :D
highlander55 29th Apr 2014, 12:05 AM edit delete reply

So he does have feelings for her even though he knows she is not human. The touching gives it away. That's a sign of affection plain and simple.
cattservant 29th Apr 2014, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

His credentials as a technophile are rather solid.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 1:33 AM edit delete reply

Yep .. hes decided the person is better than the hardware.. :D
highlander55 29th Apr 2014, 8:20 AM edit delete reply

With any woman it helps to know what makes her tick. LOL
xpacetrue 29th Apr 2014, 10:50 AM edit delete reply

They do make a cute couple. And it was pretty evident which direction Jet was leaning when the Captain blurted out Gali's nature and Jet tried to comfort her and became her staunch advocate.
cattservant 29th Apr 2014, 12:06 AM edit delete reply

You're positively prolific these days,
dear Artauthorist!
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 1:33 AM edit delete reply

I am sure as heck trying :D
cattservant 29th Apr 2014, 2:26 AM edit delete reply

Doing! There is no try!
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 12:45 PM edit delete reply

jamie59 29th Apr 2014, 1:05 AM edit delete reply

Let her have her fun.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 1:33 AM edit delete reply

I know right?
plymayer 29th Apr 2014, 1:51 AM edit delete reply

Big ship = long journey.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 3:23 AM edit delete reply

and it may not look that large here .. but its several hundred feet from the station window..
mjkj 29th Apr 2014, 3:27 AM edit delete reply


Having a moment with mom there...

Well, I think she looks great with her new hair do.

As for her looking older - regardless of how she wears her hair - she definitely looks older than a two year old...

...and yayy she is well again and without pain...

*hugs Galina*

Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 4:44 AM edit delete reply

Galina is happy for all the hugs they helped her feel so much better :D no im not kidding :D
Stormwind13 29th Apr 2014, 6:57 AM edit delete reply

::HUGS Galina::

She does look better. She has matured and letting her look reflect that.

And Jet proves himself to be truly interested in Galina as a person. Her origins don't matter to his feelings.
mjkj 30th Apr 2014, 2:30 AM edit delete reply

*hugs Galina some more*
xpacetrue 29th Apr 2014, 10:33 AM edit delete reply

So far, the best view of the Luna Star is still the vote incentive page.

I was surprised by the design. At first glance it looks quite big. But it really is mostly fuel tanks and engines. The entire living space, the capsule in front, looks tiny in comparison. You compared it to Voyager's Delta Flier and it's not much bigger.

Maximum carrying capacity of 6? Minimal cargo space? Trips that are fuel inefficient and astronomically expensive? Why would anyone build such a thing when there are much more practical considerations? As long as space ships have to carry around that much fuel, cargo and passenger transport in space would be insanely expensive, even with ships better designed for that role.

The design theory seems a bit like bolting the cockpit of a Cessna - and one or two cargo containers - onto a space-shuttle-sized fuel tank with half a dozen Boeing 777 engines. Then again, I suppose aiming to have the fastest ship is reason enough.

Maybe I'm just puzzled why it takes that much fuel when they have fusion power plants. Does the Luna Star use classic ion thrusters? Granted, a lot of sci-fi is not very realistic or assumes almost god-like technology. But fusion is nearly limitless energy.

There may be technical reasons why the following is infeasible or impractical (such as lacking materials to withstand the stress or temperatures or requiring a huge mass for radiation shielding), but...

What about having "leaky" fusion plants intentionally vent plasma and accelerate that near lightspeed? Or maybe use small, controlled fusion explosions for propulsion, sort of like a pulse jet? That way, instead of requiring large volumes of an INERT ion reaction mass like mercury, cesium, or xenon, the fuel could be a small tank of fusion fuel, like deuterium or tritium.

If nothing else, fusion can achieve the temperatures of a small sun. Superheating a reaction mass like that would create tremendous thrust. And ion and/or electromagnetic acceleration could accelerate such superheated plasma even more.

(BTW: Decades ago, there was actually a proposal to use small nuclear bombs for space propulsion! Sure, it sounds completely WACKY. But I'm serious.)
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 12:44 PM edit delete reply

A lot of the Luna Star was put together from a lot of conversations with Mister Black At the time of Luna Star mankind does NOT have FTL engines or gravity drive or magna drive , the fusion tech they do have is horribly inefficent. and wasteful The Luua Star is a concept ship .. or " because we can " and it does have some actual use. It can travel at 1 Gee - that makes it a drag racer among ships of this time period.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 2:18 PM edit delete reply

that's awesome :D *giggle fits*
Antonious 29th Apr 2014, 7:27 PM edit delete reply

Spit take time. ROTFLMAO
xpacetrue 29th Apr 2014, 7:33 PM edit delete reply

Ah, yes, MST3K. :) That brings back memories! I need to catch up on episodes I missed. And it looks like YouTube can deliver.

Yeah, yeah, it's only a story. But sci-fi can be categorized as either "hard" or "soft" - or somewhere in between. It's just that if something pegs my B.S. meter, then my suspension of disbelief suffers. Comedy like MST3K, though, is too silly to take seriously. And it's clearly written to be taken lightly, poking fun at others, even.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 8:18 PM edit delete reply

Despite the care we take in some things Luna Star and Data chasers are still soft sci fi - along the lines of Star trek and Mass effect. Tech works because of plot.

But I dont mind seeing speculation and who knows if you come up with a better reason to explain how something works I might just use it :D

xpacetrue 29th Apr 2014, 7:22 PM edit delete reply

Fair enough. And I hope I did not sound discourteous or disappointed. Luna Star is a wonderful story. It's just that I like to nitpick.

I did not expect them to have FTL or gravity drive. But what did you mean by "magna drive"? Electromagnetic propulsion, perhaps?

Well, we already have this technology today. Try searching for "Magnetohydrodynamic drive" and "VASIMR" or "Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket". Though, admittedly, it's cutting edge stuff and mostly in prototype stages. The main problem, particularly with VASIMR, is the lack of a suitable power source. (For example, the VF-200 - which is to be tested on the ISS in 2015 - is designed to operate up to the 200 kW range.) Fusion would solve that issue.

In comparison, ion engine technology has been around for nearly a century (today, not Luna's 31'st century). And it's been used in satellites and such for decades.
Centcomm 29th Apr 2014, 7:35 PM edit delete reply

nah your fine .. but some of those posts make me go WHOA! ( the really really long ones :D ) - I take it as a compliment actually.
Magna drive is a type of gravitic slingshot drive used in Data chasers.

And again most of the space stuff is run by Mister Black who is far far more nitpicky .. it took almost a year before I decided on what the ship was going to look like..
Tokyo Rose 29th Apr 2014, 10:26 PM edit delete reply

Ah, yes. "Let's stack nukes under a rocket to get it off the ground. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THIS PLAN."

I'll take a Saturn V, thank you. In fact, make that several Saturn Vs. I have some slightly odd wiring in my head; whenever I see a man-made construct that's ludicrously, outrageously, stupendously huge and also very functional, I kind of stand there going "Holy fucking shit, *people* built that?" This happens less with skyscrapers than it does with things like the B-36 or a Saturn V or the Hoover Dam, the latter of which blew my mind so hard and so thoroughly that I felt like I should pay it ten dollars and narrowly avoid being arrested for soliciting a sexual act.
Stormwind13 29th Apr 2014, 11:37 PM edit delete reply

This should fulfill those criteria and REALLY blow your mind, Rose - Dynamic Tower.

I can only boggle that someone designed such a structure, never mind contemplating BUILDING it. :-)
cattservant 30th Apr 2014, 4:55 AM edit delete reply

Dear Authartistor;
This might move you.
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 5:49 AM edit delete reply

How do you hide the link in text, like "This"? Neither bbcode ([url=][/url]) nor html code (<a href=></a>) seems to work...
cattservant 30th Apr 2014, 6:00 AM edit delete reply

I use ('bracket'url=http://'bracket')(word)('bracket'/url'bracket').
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 5:50 AM edit delete reply

@ Tokyo Rose

Actually, the proposal involving nukes was not THAT rediculous. It was about interplanetary travel, not an orbiter. Called "Project Orion", the study dates back to the 50's and 60's. It would use very small (about 0.15 kt) shaped nuclear charges with blasts focused on a "pusher plate", with large two-stage shock absorbers to smoothly trasmit blasts to acceleration. And of course it had radiation shielding.

Interestingly, Project Orion was followed by a number of similar propulsion studies that involved nuclear-type explosion. These include Mini-Mag Orion (Z-pinch + fission), Project Daedalus (electron beams & fusion), Project Longshot (fission reactor + lasers & fusion), and - most recently - Project Icarus (international successor to Daedalus).

There's also some research into Antimatter-catalyzed nuclear pulse propulsion (or ACMF). And Penn State University has designed a spacecraft, called ICAN-II, based on this technique.

BTW: Discovery, the ship in 2001: A Space Odyssey, used a type of nuclear propulsion.
Don B. 30th Apr 2014, 2:36 PM edit delete reply
Larry Niven and Gerry Pournelle used the concept of Project Orion in their novel, Footfall. It was an awesome moment. When the aliens saw THAT coming at them, they finally realized that they had no clue as to how much crazy was to be expected when dealing with humans. Accelerating nuclear rocket: "WHAM!!! WHAM!!! WHAM!!!" Targeted aliens: "WTF IS THAT?!!" I wouldn't want to be the pilot on that thing though...
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 4:53 PM edit delete reply

Heh, heh! I may have to look that novel up.

Consider, too, that when approaching a destination - such as a rendevous with an alien ship - they will have to decelerate. This means that on approach the business end will be facing the direction of the aliens and they will be launching small nukes in their direction, but detonating them right after launch. They're shaped so the blasts face their own ship, though. But lots of x-rays, and gamma rays are involved... I'd assume they'd use convensional propulsion for the final approach. XD
Stormwind13 30th Apr 2014, 6:46 PM edit delete reply

It was a pretty good book. Desperate times lead to desperate measures.

Having said that, I don't think anyone SANE that would want to ride a nuclear explosion into the heavens. Even in deep space, it isn't what I consider a good idea. If it got away from you, POOF!!! You have just vaporized your ride home. :-D

One of those things that looks good on paper, probably not as good in the real world.
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 10:01 PM edit delete reply

Well, I wouldn't want to ride on an Orion-type ship, either. No thank you! If nothing else, I'd be afraid of cancer. And you'd have a very limited fuel supply with no way to refuel beyond Earth.

But, some of those other projects seem a bit more sane, even if they involve -pure fusion- explosions. Projects Longshot, Daedalus, and Icarus do not use fission explosions. More importantly, they'd use Helium-3 or something mined from gas giants like Jupiter.

As for sanity and space travel: Have you heard of Mars One (

Over 200,000 signed up for a ONE-WAY trip to Mars as part of a mission planned for 2024, with 1,058 finalists. Yes, they want to LIVE there - forever. And it requires 8 years (off and on) of training. Imagine breaking the news to friends and loved ones. One guy is not only leaving his wife and children behind, but getting divorced.
Stormwind13 30th Apr 2014, 10:52 PM edit delete reply

Yeah I've heard of it. I'm not (QUITE) that crazy. If I was younger, I might have thought about that. :-)
Antonious 1st May 2014, 3:33 PM edit delete reply

I favor the current SapceX Falcons. They are proving as reliable as the Saturn Vs and the fuel is more stable.
Boren 30th Apr 2014, 1:33 PM edit delete reply
Am I the only one who thinks so or does the shadow across her face in the last panel give her a bit of an 'evil look' moment?
Centcomm 30th Apr 2014, 1:38 PM edit delete reply

Hehe it does >D I didnt really realize that till just now :D
Stormwind13 30th Apr 2014, 6:41 PM edit delete reply

No it wasn't just you Boren.

The image looked ominous to me; however, Galina can't really look 'scary'. With her personality, and ready smile it just isn't IN her to be scary. :-D Despite CentComm's attempts at it.
Stormwind13 30th Apr 2014, 8:20 PM edit delete reply

Now who is interrupting the young lovers? Left to their own devices Galina and Jet would just be gazing at one another for hours on end. :-D

So is it Mom? Or has Dad arrived? Or is it another voice heard from the wilderness? :-)
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 10:13 PM edit delete reply

Speaking of Mom and Dad...

Is there any chance we'll get to see the good doctor and the commander get together? DC has numerous relationships, but - so far - LS only has the power couple.

Granted, back when Gali was introduced to them, we saw these two talk about plans for an evening get together, including a movie. Though, the impression I got was that they were just good friends. For all we know, they might have invited other friends, too.
xpacetrue 30th Apr 2014, 10:15 PM edit delete reply

BTW: I miss seeing Edict. What happened to him? Cent, did you loose his model with that hard drive crash a while back?
Centcomm 1st May 2014, 12:14 AM edit delete reply

there were some "glitches " you will see Edict again soon I promise :D

as in 4 pages or so .. :D
Caley Tibbittz Collopy 15th Jul 2014, 7:14 PM edit delete reply

Okay, I officially LOVE her new hair.
Centcomm 15th Jul 2014, 7:27 PM edit delete reply

YAY - she will be bouncing between several from here on out due to low gravity .. :D
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